What does a second Trump presidency mean for immigration? With Michael Clemens

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  A second Donald Trump presidency is only a couple of months away,

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  which means that it is time to reckon with one of his major economic policies, immigration reform.

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  During the campaign,

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  comments about migrants eating dogs probably got more attention than the details of his proposals or evidence on their effects.

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  In this episode,

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  we are going to rectify that by asking what a Trump presidency means for immigration.

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  This is the Economics show with Sumaya Keynes.

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  I'm joined today by Michael Clemens of George Mason University,

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  an expert on the economics of migration and a scholar of its history.

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  Michael, hello.

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  Hello.

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  How are you?

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  Oh, you know, fine.

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  How are you?

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  It's a moment of historic change in the United States and we're going to talk about some of that.

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  We are indeed.

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  Okay, so we are going to start off with a silly, arbitrary question.

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  On a scale of 1 to 10,

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  where 1 is the least restrictive it could possibly be and 10 is the most restrictive,

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  where would you put Trump's immigration policies during his first term?

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