2025-03-19
33 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.
For this episode,
we're rejoining for part two of our conversation with Earthling Ed on how to argue with a meat eater.
Ed joined us recently at the Kiln Theatre in conversation with climate activist Dominique Palmer to share his insights on how we can all become better conversationalists and critical thinkers.
If you haven't heard part one, do just jump back an episode and get up to speed.
But now it's time to rejoin the conversation with our host, Dominique Palmer.
It was really interesting to hear about the arguments in relation to kind of capitalism and climate that you've faced and kind of tackled.
I'm really interested to know also what are kind of the top three arguments in general
that you have found amongst your research in this book and just generally like,
what's the research out there saying against veganism?
Yeah, well, I think there's a few ways of maybe approaching that question,
which is, what do I think are the most sort of prevalent arguments?
And also what do I think is maybe the most legitimate arguments?
Let's start with the prevalent ones because the legitimate one is not so interesting, really.
Well, the legitimate one, if someone cannot be vegan, then they cannot be vegan.
And what I mean by that is there are people who are reliant on food banks.
There are people in certain areas of the world who do not have the accessibility to plant foods to be vegan.
Then the argument for how they can or cannot be vegan is sort of made up for them, isn't it?
And so in terms of like a legitimate argument against veganism, then that makes sense.