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Thank you.
Yes, good.
It's all working.
So tell us a little bit about Herbie before we get into Herbie's story.
How did he come into to live with you and Jill?
It's a story that doesn't reflect terribly well on us, to be honest,
because our daughter left home to go to university and we basically replaced her.
So we got her.
I mean, within, I think, a month and a half of her going to Manchester,
Herbie arrived and, I mean, Hunt has never left.
And he is now in his dotage.
He's 13 and a half years old,
spends a lot of time sleeping, reflecting on a life of supreme disappointment.
I would say that's a bit rough on Herbie to say he's had a disappointing life.
Well, sort of everything that he worked for turned out to be not.
Didn't really work out.
I mean, his first job.
Can you just explain how he got that first job?
I mean, was there an element of nepotism?