How big a fiscal hole is the British government in? With Paul Johnson

英国政府陷入多大的财政困境?保罗·约翰逊为您揭晓

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2025-03-24

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The UK’s Labour government had already inherited a tricky fiscal situation when it came to power last July. But since then, growth has stagnated, borrowing costs have risen, and now the government has committed to a big increase in defence spending. Where will the money come from? The FT’s Sam Fleming interviews Paul Johnson, the long-time director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, an independent think-tank that has been adjudicating the UK’s public finances for more than half a century. As Britain’s Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves prepares to deliver her Spring Statement on Wednesday, should she break her government’s pledge not to raise personal taxes? Sam Fleming is the FT’s economics editor. You can find his latest features and columns here. Subscribe to The Economics show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Rachel Reeves has not had a lot of luck

  • since being appointed Britain's first female Chancellor of the Exchequer.

  • Last July.

  • The UK's finance minister and the Labour government she serves were elected on a promise not to raise vat,

  • income tax or national insurance, while also boosting public investment,

  • and all while maintaining fiscal rectitude.

  • The idea was that a big push on economic growth would make the sums add up.

  • But growth in the UK has stalled for a year now and the economic uncertainty emanating from Trump's White House could make matters even worse.

  • Meanwhile, government borrowing costs have risen thanks to stubbornly high inflation,

  • with long term borrowing costs hitting the Highest level since 1998 at one point back in January.

  • And now the UK must suddenly ramp up defence spending as the US security guarantee comes into question.

  • So where will the money come from?

  • Will the Chancellor have to break her own fiscal rules or will she have to break the government's pledge not to raise personal taxes?

  • This is the Economics show and I'm the FT's economics editor, Sam Fleming.

  • Joining me in the studio is a familiar face to anybody who follows the UK's public finances.

  • Paul Johnson is the Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies,

  • an independent think tank that has become the preeminent outside adjudicator of the British Government's finances for half a century.

  • Paul first started out at the IFS back in 1988 as a fresh faced Oxford graduate.

  • He then went off to do various stints in government before returning as the institute's director in 2011.

  • But after 14 years in charge,