US defence secretary calls Europe 'pathetic'

美国国防部长称欧洲“可怜”

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2025-03-25

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The editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg, received an invitation to the chat on the Signal app by the National Security Advisor Michael Waltz. In the chat, the vice-president JD Vance seemingly said he hates "bailing Europe out again". The defence secretary Pete Hegseth apparently replied to Vance with: "I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It's PATHETIC". We hear from the Democratic Congressman Jim Himes, ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Also in the programme: an air strike on a market in Sudan is believed to have killed hundreds of people in western Darfur; and another piece of evidence showing there could have been life on Mars. (Photo: US National Security Advisor Mike Waltz speaks with Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth. Credit: Photo by Ludovic Marin/POOL/EPA-EFE/REX/Shutterstock. Washington, DC, USA, 24 February 2025)
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  • Foreign.

  • Welcome to NewsHour from the BBC World Service.

  • I'm Celia Hatton, and I'm coming to you live from our studio in central London.

  • We begin today with the continued fallout from a group chat fiasco involving the highest ranking officials in the Trump administration,

  • the very people that are tasked with overseeing America's security.

  • We know this group was debating a military strike on the militant Houthi group in Yemen,

  • not because a whistleblower told us,

  • but because a prominent journalist was mistakenly invited to join the group's chat on an unsecure messaging app signal.

  • Here's that journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, editor in chief of the Atlantic,

  • speaking to the US Public broadcaster pbs.

  • You know, it really became a very bizarre situation on Saturday 15th March,

  • when I was shared on a text in this group from somebody purporting to be Pete Hegseth,

  • the secretary of defense.

  • This text contained operational military information,

  • including the time that bombs were supposed to start dropping on Yemen,

  • and this was two hours before that time.

  • So I simply waited and stared at my phone.

  • Sure enough, the American attack on Yemen began to be felt at about 1:30 Eastern or so,

  • 1:30, 50 Eastern.

  • And that's when I realized that the chain was real.