The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

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  On March 15, the US began a bombing campaign against Houthi groups in Yemen.

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  A couple of hours before that, our editor in chief,

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  Jeffrey Goldberg sat in his car in a supermarket parking lot waiting to see

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  if and when the attack would start.

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  How he knew about this military campaign is a very weird story.

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  Not long ago, Jeff was added to a text chain of very important people in the administration.

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  Presumably, he was added to it by accident.

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  I know it happens to the best of us.

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  But there was the editor of the Atlantic monitoring the back and forth between Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth,

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  Vice President J.D. vance and others, wondering, could this possibly be real?

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  In fact, Brian Hughes, the spokesman for the National Security Council,

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  later confirmed that it was indeed all real.

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  I'm Hanna Rosen, this is Radio Atlantic.

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  And today we have on the show Editor in Chief Jeffrey Goldberg and staff writer Shane Harris,

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  who covers national security, to explain what happened and what it might mean.

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  Jeff, welcome to the show.

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  Hey, Hannah.

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  Hi, Shane.

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  Hi, Jeff.

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  On Tuesday, March 11, you get a signal message from a user identified as Michael Waltz,

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