How David Fajgenbaum saved his own life — and thousands of others

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  I've got this vision for the future.

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  I've got the people I love by my side.

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  And then I'm going to take it one breath at a time.

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  Hey, everyone, it's Adam Grant.

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  Welcome back to Rethinking my podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the TED Audio Collective.

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  I'm an organizational psychologist,

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  and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

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  My guest today is David Fagenbaum.

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  I've never met a more inspiring person.

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  David's a physician scientist at Penn who saved his own life by repurposing a drug and testing it on himself.

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  Now his non profit, EveryCure, has used that method to save thousands of others.

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  I think that most physicians and researchers,

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  they hear about a drug and they will say that is a diabetes drug.

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  Well, no, it's not a diabetes drug.

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  It is a drug that modulates this pathway and it has an effect in diabetes,

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  and it also could have an effect in all these other things.

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  AI is central to David's work,

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  and it's hard to think of a more exciting use case for this technology.

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  Just knowing he exists gives me hope, and I think he'll have the same effect on you.

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  David, welcome to Rethinking.

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