Leading leaders who lead engineers (remastered) (Interview)

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  Foreign.

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  I'm Jared and this is the changelog, a podcast featuring the hackers,

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  the leaders and the innovators from all around the software world.

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  Today, we're bringing you a remaster of one of our favorite episodes of all times.

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  In July of 2021, Adam and I sat down with Lara Hogan to discuss leading leaders who lead engineers,

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  and she is a wealth of knowledge on this subject.

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  We loved learning from Lara, and we hope you will too.

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  But first, a mention of our partners at Fly IO, the public cloud built for developers who ship.

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  Over 3 million apps have launched on Fly, leveraging, global Anycast, load balancing, zero config,

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  private networking,

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  hardware isolation and instant Wireguard VPN connections with push button deployments scaling to thousands of instances.

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  Learn all about it@Fly IO.

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  Okay, Laura Hogan, remastered.

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  Let's do this.

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  Well, friends, I'm here with a good old friend of mine,

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  Terrence Lee, cloud native architect at Heroku.

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  So, Terrence, the next gen of Heroku called Fur is coming soon.

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  What can you say about the next generation for Heroku?

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  Fur represents the next decade of Heroku.

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  You know, cedar lasted for 14 years and more still going.

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