Can Germany escape its economic doldrums? With Ulrike Malmendier

德国能否摆脱经济困境?与乌尔丽克·马尔梅迪尔探讨

The Economics Show

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2025-03-31

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For the past few years, Germany has begun to look like the ‘sick man of Europe’ again. Its economy has barely grown since 2019, while its famous manufacturing sector has shrivelled. But earlier this month, financial markets were buoyed by a vote in the German parliament to relax the constitutional limit on government borrowing, the so-called debt brake. It means that Germany’s likely new conservative-led coalition government will be free to borrow unlimited amounts to fund a defence sector build-up, and can also draw on a €500bn fund to spend on infrastructure over the next 10 years. But will more government spending be enough to address Germany’s structural economic problems? The FT’s Martin Sandbu speaks to economist Ulrike Malmendier of the University of California, Berkeley, who is a member of the German Council of Economics Experts, which evaluates the government’s economic policies. Martin Sandbu writes a regular column for the Financial Times, which you can find here. It includes recent columns on Berlin’s about-turn on debt spending, and the economic choice facing Germany. Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Presented by Martin Sandbu. Produced by Laurence Knight. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Audio mix and original music by Breen Turner. The FT’s head of audio is Cheryl Brumley.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Many of you will have seen headlines recently about Germany loosening its infamous constitutional debt break,

  • the limit on government borrowing.

  • It's quite a radical step for a frugal country like Germany.

  • And it was driven in part by a sense that the economy is stuck in a rut and also geopolitical challenges.

  • At the start of this century, Germany was often billed the sick man of Europe,

  • but then it had two solid decades of growth.

  • Today, however, the gloom is back and we've seen several years of economic stagnation.

  • So has Germany become the sick man of Europe yet again?

  • And if so, is loosening the debt break what it takes to recover its economic mojo,

  • or does it need other economic reforms?

  • This is The Economics Show.

  • And joining me to talk about the German economy is Ulrike Malmondier.

  • She is Professor of Economics and Finance at the University of California at Berkeley and a member of the German Government's Council of Economic Experts.

  • Ulrike, welcome and thanks for joining us.

  • Thank you so much for having me, Martin.

  • Ulrike, how do I pronounce your last name correctly?

  • Is it Malmondier as in French?

  • It's an excellent question.

  • So I think the real answer I suppose is good.

  • Malmondier is typically what they do in the US and in parts of Germany.