Women working through menopause 

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The Conversation

社会与文化

2025-03-31

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Datshiane Navanayagam is joined by two women from the UK and Australia whose personal experience of menopause and perimenopause has led them to advocate for better support at work. Madhu Kapoor is a writer and menopause awareness campaigner. She experienced a range of physical and psychological symptoms during perimenopause in her early 40s which led to her resigning from her senior position in the British government department. Now she uses her two decades spent in HR and recruitment to shape workplace standards through her company M for Menopause and advices women on navigating the challenges she also faced. Grace Molloy is a registered nurse and CEO of Menopause Friendly Australia – an organisation that provides support and accreditation to companies looking to create workplaces that are responsive to the needs of menopausal women. Its members include Commonwealth Bank, global professional services firm Accenture, BHP, the Parliament of WA and St John WA. Molloy has been honoured as Western Australia's Telstra Best of Business Award winner in the Accelerating Women category, helped 250,000 people make the workplace more menopause-friendly and gave evidence at last year’s landmark Australian Senate inquiry into issues relating to perimenopause and menopause. Produced by Hannah Dean and Emily Naylor (Image: (L) Madhu Kapoor courtesy Madhu Kapoor. (R) Grace Molloy credit Ross Swanborough.)
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  • This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK.

  • Hello and welcome to the conversation from the BBC World Service,

  • the show which puts women in the spotlight and allows us to hear the most incredible stories and insights from all around the world.

  • I'm Dashiani Navanaiga.

  • Menopause and the associated symptoms that come with it often affect women at a time in their lives when work,

  • family and caring responsibilities are at their peak.

  • For those in the workplace, discussing this can still feel taboo,

  • with many choosing to suffer in silence or leave work altogether.

  • Today I'm speaking to two women about this important topic.

  • Grace Malloy is a registered nurse and CEO of Menopause Friendly Australia and in the studio with me is Madhu Kapoor,

  • who resigned from her job in the British government department where she'd worked for over two decades when she went through perimenopause.

  • She went on to found M for menopause.

  • Grace, Madhu, welcome to the conversation.

  • Thank you.

  • Hi Dashie.

  • Grace, let's start with you.

  • When did you first hear about menopause?

  • So for me it was quite a shock to hear about menopause in my 30s because

  • as you just said I'm a registered nurse so I did a nursing degree in midlife and my father was an obstetrician and my mum was a midwife.

  • So when I first learned about perimenopause it was in my late 30s when I was exploring how to stay healthy after having children and what would be the best way to set myself up for a healthier midlife and decided to talk to some of my friends about this and we discovered something called perimenopause.