In Search of 100-Year-Old Paper Trails

追寻百年纸迹

Good on Paper

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2025-04-01

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Researchers have suggested that lifestyle choices explain the remarkably high number of very old people living healthy lives in regions of the world known as “blue zones.” That research has spawned cookbooks, docuseries, and diets and turned blue zones into a household name. Today’s episode is a conversation with Dr. Saul Newman, who has upended the field by questioning the underlying data and research methods that hold up the now-controversial theory.   Further reading:  “Supercentenarian and remarkable age records exhibit patterns indicative of clerical errors and pension fraud,” by Saul Newman  “The Science Behind Blue Zones: Demographers Debunk the Critics”—an open letter signed by scientists and demographers supporting the “blue zones” theory  “Sorry, No Secret to Life Is Going to Make You Live to 110,” by Saul Newman for The New York Times  Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • According to our world and data, in 1800,

  • not a single region of the world had a life expectancy longer than 40 years.

  • By 2021, the global average life expectancy was more than 70 years.

  • It's still not enough.

  • We want to live longer, healthier lives.

  • What can we do about it?

  • You've probably heard of Blue Zones,

  • regions of the world where researchers claim to have found disproportionate numbers of people living into their hundreds.

  • The first such Eden was Sardinia, Italy, then Okinawa,

  • Japan, and Loma Linda, California, among others.

  • But in recent years,

  • despite the prevalence of cookbooks and diets and Netflix docuseries about these places,

  • explaining how to learn from the lifestyles of people living in these regions,

  • something hasn't quite added up.

  • My name's Jerusalem Dempsis.

  • I'm a staff writer at the Atlantic, and this is Good on Paper,

  • a policy show that questions what we really know about popular narratives.

  • Saul Newman is a longevity researcher at the University of Oxford and the University College London who has become convinced

  • that this research doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

  • First, when he looks at the regions of the world designated Blue Zones,