2025-04-06
1 小时 10 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, I'm Connor Boyle.
For the Sunday debate this week, an archive listen pitting two masters of Cold War fiction,
or at least that's what they claimed,
against one another, Ian Fleming, creator of James Bond vs John Le Carré,
author of Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy and many others.
The works of spy novel author John Le Carré often occupying the murky worlds of intelligence,
gathering between the Cold War superpowers of East and West,
still feels timely today, as the worlds considers what to do with another tyrant in the Kremlin.
Le Carré is also the subject of two new books out this month, A Private Spy and A Secret Heart.
Ian Fleming was the creator of the worlds favourite spy of course, James Bond,
and in 2016 we gathered a panel of expert speakers and great actors to debate which spy master comes out on top.
Here's our host, the author and critic, Erica Wagner, with more.
I'm really delighted to be here tonight.
When we will see whether our conversation remains as martini ice-cool as one of our authors tonight,
or grows as smoking gun hot as the other.
For this evening we will be pitting against each other the two giants of espionage, Ian Fleming and John Le Carré.
In one corner, Ian Fleming, Goldfinger, Dr.
No, Casino Royale, Super Spy, James Bond always leaves us both shaken and stirred.
In the ring with him, John Le Carré, Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy, Smiley's People,
The Spy, books where betrayal of the realm and of the heart are on top of the menu.