2022-05-09
1 小时 11 分钟The way that we work is not natural.
There is nothing natural about it.
We naturalize it so that people don't question the way that we work.
But like every generation is like, huh, maybe there's a different way of conceiving of our labor.
And I think that right now, with these different paradigms available, people are questioning the status quo in a way that is important and generative and we shouldn't dismiss.
So we're all in a process of reimagining when it comes to this thing called work, looking at the changes that we've made over the last few years and trying to figure out what we'll keep, what we'll let go of, and maybe how else we might want to change the way we work in order to feel the way we want to feel.
And what so many are realizing is that we've got more power to reimagine nearly every aspect of work now than we have ever had before.
And the question is, well, what do we do with that power?
And what do we do with this moment of openness to new ways of working and living?
And these are the questions that we dive into with today's guest, Anne Helen Peterson.
So Ann is a journalist whose wise, often irreverent, funny, provocative writing appeared in BuzzFeed, New York Times and more before leaving the mainstream to become the voice behind the wildly popular newsletter culture study.
She's also the author of four books, most recently out of the the Big problem and bigger promise of working from home, co written with Charlie Warzel and can't even how millennials became the burnout generation.
So during our conversation, we talk about everything from where we live and work to the traditional role of the nine to five work week and how as we look at what's important to us, companies and businesses, and the promise of what remote work can bring.
There's this opportunity to change the way we think about work, which ultimately then opens the door to shifting old school work schedules and models across many industries.
One of my favorite moments in the conversation is right around minute 35, when Ann makes a really compelling case for the four day work week, showing how she's witnessed its success even in, as she calls them, fuddy duddy industries.
And we also talk about Ann's own personal power move from mainstream media journalist in big city living to going out on her own as a writer, starting her own subscription newsletter, moving to a remote island and loving it all.
If you're ready to think about work differently, this conversation will be a beacon for you.
Excited to share it?
I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is good life project.
You were in New York for a chunk of time, and 2020, you make this really big move out to Missoula, Montana.